Master de Baters Round 'Deux"

Since I really like to pay attention, I'll be quasi-live blogging. (20:43)

UPDATE: I lied. I did minute-by-minute updates.

Carl Cameron us talking about a memo from ABC News that basically reveals their anti-Bush bias. He says it is available on the 'net. I'm looking for it. (20:59)

Drudge has a scan of the memo. (21:01)

OK, Kerry already evading direct answers, and its only the first question. (21:06)

Obviously Bush has gotten some sleep on this one. He is much better at speaking freely then remembering answers. (21:08)

I want to tell the guy in the purple shirt, "Robin," to shut the hell up. (21:09)

Touche, Mr. President. Finally he said that Kerry read the same intelligence, and came to the same conclusion. (21:10)

I wish Bush would just walk over to Kerry and slap the grin off of his face. There goes Kerry, ducking "Robin's" question. WTF? The question was on Iraq jackass. Kerry is actually trying to look tough...you can see him trying to pantomime toughness. If Kerry really had balls, he would say that Iran and North Korea are next. (21:12)

Bush just laughed in Kerry's face. lol (21:14)

Could this be Kerry's position on Iraq? Nope, I guess not. Here is talking about what he thinks is not working, quoting Senators. So what do you suggest Kerry? OK, here he goes, reaching out to Allies, great answer. Bush laughed again. That's great. So so far this windbag has said he is going to train our troops and train Iraqis. Real novel solution there, pansy. (21:16)

YES!!!! Bush finally said that Kerry's "plan" is the Bush plan. SMACK! Oooh, another one, SMACK.!! (21:17)

Bush with the body blow! The uppercut! Saying the war on terror is more than Usama. (21:18)
OK, Bush is playing dodgeball now, on the "unpopular" question. He is slowly getting to a good answer. He said it, POW! The right decision is better than the popular one. He brought up the ICC too, great. "You don't want a President who tries to become popular and does the wrong thing." (21:21)

That was a damn fine answer from Kerry though. I might not agree but that was a great counter. Saying Bush broke the promise. Damn fine rebuttal answer by Kerry too, you can see people nodding in the background. (21:24)

OK, It is 2 anti-Bush, 1 anti-Kerry questions. (21:24)

Kerry lie - Bush did nothing on North Korea. (21:25)

Kerry talking about joining the British and the French, again. (21:26)

Bush just winked lol I think at Laura (21:26)

Bush joked about scowling, nice. (21:27)

3 anti-Bush, 1 anti-Kerry questions (21:28)

Bush, please answer that the draft bill is Democrat sponsored. He is not saying it. He is focusing on transformation in the armed forces. This is not the direct answer. (21:30)

Kerry's rebuttal includes name dropping, with former commanders and what not. Any answer yet? Kerry is calling the stop loss back door draft. More on that later. There he is, Kerry saying he will add 40,000 troops. Oooh, he invoked the name of Reagen! (21:32)

Whoa! Bush just totally cut off the moderator! That was awesome. Kerry is once again saying the coalitiion partners don't matter. (21:33)

3 anti-Bush, 1 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball by some blathering idiot asking Kerry how he will protect the homeland. (21:33)

Kerry brought up intelligence. Please Bush, call him out on his record!! Kerry just called "Ann" "Nicky" i.e. the wrong name. Doofus. (21:35)

KNOCKOUT!!!!!!!!!!! Bush said that Kerry voted to cut the intelligence budget after Kerry said we need better intelligence. (21:36)

Bush just looked down to see if Kerry crossed the line on the stage, lol. (21:38)

Bush, another one on the chin of Kerry. Spread freedom to fight terrorism. (21:38)

4 anti-Bush, 1 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball (21:38) (canada health prescriptions question)

Good answer by President Bush, "what looks like from Canada could be from the 3rd world." OK, now he is bringing up his medicare prescription "win." I don't agree with that, but he brought it up in the right context. (21:40)

Kerry said Bush lied right there, saying Canada import plan was a good idea four years ago. Have to say Kerry is winning this question. Bush is bringing up Kerry's record again! KAZAM! Kerry claims in 1997 that he fixed medicare. He also said Bush doesn't know how to balance a budget. Wow, big one for Kerry (21:43)

4 anti-Bush, 2 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball (21:43)

Kerry avoiding question, one drink. Kerry gives out URL saying there is a tort reform plan. We'll see. (21:44)

A search for the word "tort" on www.johnkerry.com reveals 2 hits, 1 a testimonial, and one hit on a Newsweek article than claims Kerry has a more agressive tort reform plan. So, lie there, no tort reform plan on the website (21:47)

BAM! Bush said Kerry should have shown up to vote for tort reform when it was up in the Senate. (21:48)

5 anti-Bush, 2 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball (21:49)

5 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball (21:55)

Kerry looked into the camera, that was funny. he didn't really promise what the kid asked him to do. Now he is talking out of his ass. (21:56)

Kerry just said he was raising taxes! (21:56)

Bush again bringing up the record of John Kerry! "It's not credible" "Of course he is going to raise your taxes." lol, "battling green eyeshades." Bush is coming across much more personable than last time, and I think he is reaching the studio audience. (21:58)

Kerry says $2.2 billion is not accurate...checking. "Can run but can't hide." That's awesome. (21:59)

5 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 1 open-ended (22:00) (environmental question)

Eh. Bush isn't really getting a good grasp on the environmental question. He is saying some good things, but I don't know if anyone is hearing him. He says he is a good steward of the land but the grinch that asked the question is not amused. (22:01)

Kerry is talking about welfare reform and cops in rebuttal to a question on the environment. Kerry just threw out a totally ridiculous statement, saying the air would be cleaner. That's a pretty good damn crystal ball he must have. (22:03)

Oh SNAP! Bush says "to be popular in the halls of Europe." That is good stuff. (22:03)

5 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 2 open-ended (22:05) (manufacturing jobs)

This question was intended as a fluffball but the spinster that read it didn't know she was doing it. It was a softball for Kerry to say that Bush is outsourcing jobs. Kerry is saying that he is raising taxes again. Poor guy. (22:06)

Kerry says China and India graduate more tech grads than we are...a big duh. They have a larger population. (22:07)

Bush says that Robert Reuben looked at Kerry's plan and said it won't work. Hm. Well at least he is saying again that Kerry didn't show up for the vote! tee hee Great answer by Bush, saying that S corps will get more taxes (22:08)

Bush asks "I own a timber company?" lol. (22:09)

6 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 2 open-ended (10:10) (patriot act)

Bush is kind of avoiding the Patriot Act question. This is something important to me, I wish that he would answer it more directly. (22:12)

Kerry's answer speaks directly (gosh!) to the problem with the Patriot Act. (22:13)

6 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 3 open-ended (22:14) (stem cells)

Kerry tries to act human, and fails miserably. Kerry is losing it on this question big time, you can see that he is either not being truthful, or was not prepared for that question at all. "I want the future, and I think we have to grab it." WTF does that mean? (22:16)

Bush is saying that we need to be careul balancing the ethics and science of stem cells. That is why he is a good President. He knows that there is a different between right and wrong. (22:17)

6 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 4 open-ended (22:19) (supreme court)

Bush says he would pick a strict constitutionalist. Said he wouldn't pick someone who wouldn't allow the pledge. Right on. Damn Kerry is throwing all kinds of crap in, trying to scare people on this one. Will women's rights be protected? (22:22)

6 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 5 open-ended (22:23) (abortion)

Kerry not answering this question at all. The question was, will federal money go to abortions? And Kerry is sharing his personal belief on it. Ah, here he goes, he is saying that a poor person is entitled to an abortion, to a government service they are entitled too. (22:25)

Bush gets up, answers the question, "we are not going to spend federal money on abortion." (22:25)

Good one, he said Kerry voted against partial-birth. (22:26)

6 anti-Bush, 3 anti-Kerry, 1 fluffball, 6 open-ended (22:28) (3 mistakes)

Kerry called that lady out on her question,. He said that the question was really trying to ask if he made a mistake on Iraq. You know, I can't help but laugh when I know Bush is going to pull ahead from this debate. (22:30)

Kerry has a defeated kind of look now, I think he knows how this one went. (22:31)


Bryan